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    Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.
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    - - - - the term "rag head" isn't necessary. We are championing the idea of freedom here. Insults do not further the cause.

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    I certainly won't respond to the backlash that comes from this day with kind political correctness.
    The war begins, I'm going to get a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keckster View Post
    - - - - the term "rag head" isn't necessary. We are championing the idea of freedom here. Insults do not further the cause.
    Necessary? No. But let me explain why I used it. I don't like Muslims. They piss me off because they are brutal, barbaric, ignorant, annoying, sexist, homophobic morons. But so are Christians, right? Sure, but Christians don't pour acid on girls, blow up innocent civilians, or get angry to the point of assault and murder just because other people think differently or have the nerve to dare to draw an image of their ridiculous god. Just recently they've attempted to physically impose their ignorance on one such person once again. So I'm trying to show them that I'm not scared and that I want them to get pissed off, I want them to be offended. Islam is completely incompatible with modern western values and deserves no respect what so ever.
    Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.
    Religion, n. A daughter of hope and fear, explaining to ignorance the nature of the unknowable.
    Philosophy, n. A route of many roads leading from nowhere to nothing.
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    Necessary? No. But let me explain why I used it. I don't like Muslims.
    Sure, but Christians don't ...
    I call bullshit.
    Humanity as a whole is a brutal bunch. Give a lynch mob a reason, even if it's a shitty reason to kill someone and it will take to the act like paranhas to fresh meat.

    I won't "insult" your intelligence and pretend that you don't know that Christians quite frequently rape and murder people in Africa, burn witches and torture children that are alleged to be possessed...or that buddhists in Tibet and Sri Lanka killed people.

    That every single religion on this planet practices a form of discrimination that subjects non-believers to a position that it is not their place to question beliefs, rather to obey.

    While I'm sure you can site any number of resources where individuals have abstained from this, in the same way you may call bullshit to the claim -ALL RELIGION IS WRONG-, I call bullshit to the claim any one of them should be spared scrutiny at any time simply because they don't murder people.

    Live and let learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiefer View Post
    Necessary? No. But let me explain why I used it. I don't like Muslims. They piss me off because they are brutal, barbaric, ignorant, annoying, sexist, homophobic morons. But so are Christians, right? Sure, but Christians don't pour acid on girls, blow up innocent civilians, or get angry to the point of assault and murder just because other people think differently or have the nerve to dare to draw an image of their ridiculous god. Just recently they've attempted to physically impose their ignorance on one such person once again. So I'm trying to show them that I'm not scared and that I want them to get pissed off, I want them to be offended. Islam is completely incompatible with modern western values and deserves no respect what so ever.
    But here's the thing: calling anyone a "raghead" offends me, too. Probably many other people. It's a racist term that distracts from the main issue here.

    IMO, the whole point of Everybody Draw Muhammad Day is to show the unreasonableness of Islam when it works itself up about something that a reasonable person shouldn't be bothered by. When you add stuff that people can legitimately be offended by, it diminishes the whole point of what's going on.

    When people go into a rage about stick figure depictions of their prophet, then it's clear they're being irrational. When they go nuts about a campaign that has all sorts of other insulting stuff as well (whether or not it's based in fact), then it introduces the possibility that their anger might actually be well-founded.

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    A day to antagonize others. How brilliant! What kind of immature moron delights in such activity?

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    If that's what you think it is, then you don't know what started the movement. You only know that information which has opted to use it perversly.

    The very fact that they are "antagonized" says more about freedom then you can imagine.

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    Threatening and conducting actual violence on a person, just because he drew some cartoons with bearded men.
    Now that I consider antagonizing, immature, moronic behaviour.
    Banning a popular (although I never get it) TV cartoon for the same thing, but then allowing a new cartoon about JC.
    That I consider antagonizing, immature, moronic behaviour.
    Pointing out these stupid irrational and dangerous responses with a well thought out campaign on free speach
    is great.
    No sidewalks here otherwise I would join in.
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    If that's what you think it is, then you don't know what started the movement.
    I know what started the movement. Lack of common sense started it. You stick your pen in a hornets nest, you're going to get stung. It has everything to do with freedom, but the idiot who waves a red flag in front of a bull that doesn't give a damn about his freedoms has no one but himself to blame if he gets gored to death.

    Threatening and conducting actual violence on a person, just because he drew some cartoons with bearded men.
    Now that I consider antagonizing, immature, moronic behaviour.
    Yes, that is immature, moronic behaviour too. So when presented with immature moronic behaviour the best course of action is to respond with immature moronic behaviour? Makes loads of sense.

    Molly Norris, the originator of the "Everybody Draw Mohammad Day", explains this is not meant to disrespect any religion, but rather meant to protect people's right to express themselves. Yet the title of the day targets a specific group of people, Muslims. Norris knows this is disrespectful ( not that I think any religion deserves respect) and therefore the cartoonist is being disingenuous.

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