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Jesus the Fish? Hmmmmmm... Troll Patrol. Thread Locked. User in queue for banning.
Hopefully this is the right spot to drop my post. Caught wind of this movement yesterday morning on community radio and wanted to share my thoughts.
My concern with this atheist movement is that it seemingly aims to anger and alienate followers but doesn’t offer anything to challenge the very foundations these supposed religions such as Christianity are founded upon as well as failing to examine what is being conveyed within religious texts and doctrine.
My aim is to debunk the foundation of religious institutions. Expose it for what it is with plausible facts and the alternative theories I’ve come across have assisted me in undermining their concept of god and misguided worship. I’m open to the idea that there is a spirituality within each of us but not necessarily a divinity.
One curious discovery is that science and religion are not as polarized as one may think. In fact, science is just as bad as religion as the scientific community tends to deny alternative sciences or concepts or histories that don't adhere to the status quo. I've discovered that there is an institutionalized effort of control from both entities. For example, the global warming debate which is promoting reduction and efficiency of consumption but failing to bring forth or permit alternative energy systems. Hence they maintain our dependency on fossil fuels but simply indoctrinate us to reduce our usage of them.
Even our academic institutions are biased. When I took grade 9 geography class, the teacher discussed two geographical concepts, one being catastrophism the other being uniformitarianism. The catastrophists were dismissed as fanatics and uniformitarianism was the concept of choice throughout the curriculum right up to the university level. Uniformitarianism speaks to geographic formations that take millions of years to form, such as continental drift theory where the continents move apart centimeters every year, taking eons of time to form the formations we see currently. But some of the catastrophist theories have surfaced as of late with concepts such as earth crust displacement and pole shifts. They can't be denied as we've seen mass extinctions in North America and the advance and recession of the ice age. What triggers these 'recent' events, are they sudden or do they take thousands of years to develop?
My mandate is to read and extract what I determine to be the truth for me.
First off, there are tens of thousands of beliefs but only one reality or truth.
I’ve come across various sources of alternative history and technology over the last few years. I’ve always considered myself an atheist and an advocate of science but have realized based on these readings that there is much science buried within religious text and scripture that we could readily dismiss as silly folklore yet carries plausible significance.
The first book that inspired my thirst to discover more was Graham Hancock’s ‘Fingerprints of the Gods’. Hancock examines various world religions and mythologies and discovered astonishing commonalities between them all including precessional codes which he also found within the passage rights of street gangs such as The Triads.
What is precession?
When the Earth rotates, it spins on an angle but it isn’t a perfect spin, it actually wobbles and that wobble is called precession. It takes approximately 25920 years for one complete cycle to finish. This wobble changes the Earth's inclination and view of the alignment of the stars so the chunk of years was broken into 12 segments or constellations, hence the 12 signs of the zodiac which is the true calendar.
Time is not linear it is cyclic. As the Earth wobbles it passes through the various constellations and it takes 2160 years for the Earth to pass through one zodiac sign. During the spring equinox, the sun rises under the sign of our current zodiac which is ‘pisces’ the symbol of none other than the fish. It has been doing so for approximately 2100 years and we are in the transition period where the sign will change to that of ‘aquarius’…
How old is Jesus approx? Aren’t we in the 21st century??? 21 * 100=2100. That is cutting it awful close to 2160.
The zodiac calendar whose significance and importance has been reduced to trivial horoscopes, is the true calendar and our very city lights have advanced its obscurity.
The vast majority of world religions and mythologies have tales of deluge and stories of flooding and Noah’s Ark(checkout Fingerprints of the Gods(yes gods-plural)) and there are far too many commonalities between them to be arbitrary, in fact Z. Sitchin has discovered ceremonial Hebrew words in mesoamerican civilizations and believes they are the lost tribes of Israel.
All that aside, it takes the Earth approx 2160 years to pass through one zodiac sign and we are currently coming to the end of the period of the age of pisces and moving to the age of aquarius.
How old is Christianity? How old is our Gregorian Calendar? How old is Jesus approx? Aren’t we in the 21st century??? 21 * 100=2100. That is cutting it awful close to 2160 years it takes for the Earth to pass through one zodiacal sign. hmmmmmm.....
The bible calls it ‘end of days’ and Mayans pulled out people’s hearts to prevent it but sure as morning toast, the transition from one age to the next is happening. The Mayan calendar also ends in 2012.
Associated with this change in age has been calamitous events ie: deluge, ice ages, hence the importance of the calendar to prepare for this uncertain eventuality. Will something devastating happen? Not sure but the one expert I’ve read believes it happens every two cycles of the zodiac this being the end of the second. http://www.pyramidmatrix.com
Constantine, like today’s ruling elite feared the masses and transferred the pagan values and symbols into christian ones(Dan Brown-Da Vinci Code). The pagans basically worshiped women as divine for their ability to give life and none other than the sun, hence the word SUNday.
The sun currently rises under the sign of pisces during the spring equinox. Pisces is the symbol of the fish who is none other than, you guessed it, Jesus.
Art has always mirrored the sign of the zodiac that the sun rises under, hence, we had the minotaur during the age of taurus.
from dictinary.com
Ichthus
Ich”thus\, n. [Gr. ?.] In early Christian and eccesiastical art, an emblematic fish, or the Greek word for fish, which combined the initials of the Greek words ?, ?, ? ?, ?, Jesus, Christ, Son of God, Savior.
Early Christian art depicting the fish…I repeat…early ‘Christian’ art depicting the symbol of the fish for who??? Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior…
What is the zodiac symbol for pisces again? The Fish….hmmmmmm. Out of all the symbol rich things our planet has to offer, why on Earth would they have chosen to associate Jesus with a fish?
The fish represents Jesus and who is Jesus? The son of god? Jesus’s birthday is aligned with the fall and rise of the sun as the Earth revolves around it. ie: the winter solstice, the end of the dark cycle and the happy happy joy joy of the new year celebration, the return of the sun as it begins its ascent in the horizon again, hence longer days, light triumphs over dark.(A very borealcentric view methinks:Jesus is how old? How long does it take the Earth to pass through one zodiac sign? 2160 years. hmmmmmm…
Some of these religious folk preach the return, well, he returns every year!
Carl Sagan wrote in Contact, math is the universal language and an advanced civilization would use it as their form of communication.
Maya means water in Egyptian.
The Great Pyramid at Giza and the Kukulkan Pyramid in Mexico are undeniably linked through math written into the design of the building.
Kukulkan has 9 levels, 4 sides, 4 staircases and 365 steps:
9*4*4*365=52560
Contrary to popular belief and modern man’s bloated ego, the prime meridian is not in Greenwich it is the Great Pyramid at Giza. (try to debunk it, I invite you to
Kukulkan sits 119 degrees, 42 minutes and 10.5ish seconds West of Giza:
52560/119 degrees=441.68067
441.68067/ 42 minutes =10.516207
The time in seconds. Not convinced? Kukulkan has 365 steps offset at 90 degree angles: 365/90=4.055
According to the Aeronautical Charting Division in Silver Spring MD the Giza and Kukulkan pyramids are 7123.85068 statute miles(yes miles, none of that metric poison) apart. The TAN of 7123.85068=4.055…not bad for a bunch of primitives!
Stonehenge originally had 60 stones arranged in a circle (360degrees). 60*360=21600. Well, Stonehenge rests 51 degrees, 10 minutes, 42.3529411 seconds north of giza.
21600/ 51 degrees=423.52941
423.52941/ 10 minutes=42.352941
Which is the amount in seconds where it sits north of Giza.
Three structures in three different parts of the world linked via math, yet apparently evolved independently of each other.
The very ancients who designed the zodiac calendar also built those structures.
The math is undeniable and tested to ensure the numbers are not being manipulated. Google Carl Munck ‘The Code’ and read his article on greatdreams.com and visit his site…www.pyramidmatrix.com
We invented instruments to measure longitude in the 1800’s to avoid shipwrecks. The precision used to design these buildings clearly shows it was around long before our modern society.
If the atheist bus campaign is going to run these ads, start including items or symbols that give people something tangible so they can see the reality of the world around them. Not some vague statement that fosters hostility. I know all too well that people create their own realities and any message that goes against the grain of their indoctrination will result in fear and anger but please make the effort to debunk what religion(and possibly science) stands upon with plausible facts rather than vague statements such as ‘god doesn’t exist just be happy’.
Happy reading:
Graham Hancock
Carl Munck
Robert Temple
Christoper Dunn
David Twitchell
David Hatcher Childress
Viktor Schauberger
Stephen Mehler
Originally Posted by newsun26 