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    Do you mean that you don't know His Name ? Or that it is not proper to use the term "_od"

    " The mercy and goodness and majesty of the King of
    Light cannot be fathomed. None can know these things
    save the life that is within thee, and the spirits and messengers
    that gird thee around.

    " Thy creatures they know not even thy name.

    " The kings of light ask one another, What is the name of
    the Great Light ? They answer, He has no name.

    " His throne is stable, like the throne of the Most High.
    It is established from generation to generation.

    " No poor sculptor of earth has fashioned this throne.
    The palace of the king was not built up by earthly masons.
    Immovable he dwells in a city of diamonds, a city without
    discord"

    Essene.
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    Default Re: I do not understand "Atheism"

    What exactly are you asking? Atheism is very simple.

    Atheism, as an explicit position, can be either the affirmation of belief in the nonexistence of a god or gods, or the rejection of theism. It is also defined more broadly as an absence of belief in deities, or nontheism.

    Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
    Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.
    Religion, n. A daughter of hope and fear, explaining to ignorance the nature of the unknowable.
    Philosophy, n. A route of many roads leading from nowhere to nothing.
    -Ambrose Bierce
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    Do you mean that you don't know His Name ?
    Actually, that is a good question. What is His name? I always suspected it was "Bob", but I can't be sure. I just know there are a lot of people named "Bob", and I was playing the odds.

    Look, whether he's God, Allah, Yahweh, or whatever, to me, he's a figment of our early imaginations. A reason for why things happened before we understood why things happened. As we learn about the world and ourselves, the notion of god seems less and less likely. I feel I'm better off without him, and I recover some precious time on Sunday compared to my Christian friends.
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    If anything you should be able to understand Atheism very well, you practice it. You disbelieve in all other deities except for your own. Theists disbelieve in 99.9% of gods, Atheists are just .1% ahead.
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able, and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God?

    ~ Epicurus
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    (I'm assuming you're religious in some way.) Take your life, then remove religion from the equation. Voila, an atheist! McGriddles says it best, though. Imagine how you feel about Thor. That's how atheists feel about ALL deities.
    I expect to pass through this world but once, therefore any good that I can do or any kindness that I can show to any fellow creature, let me do it now; let me not defer it or neglect it, for I shall not come this way again. -S.Grellet
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    Default Re: I do not understand "Atheism"

    Essene was a troll and is now banned.
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    First troll, that's an achievement.
    Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.
    Religion, n. A daughter of hope and fear, explaining to ignorance the nature of the unknowable.
    Philosophy, n. A route of many roads leading from nowhere to nothing.
    -Ambrose Bierce
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    Essene a troll? A religious flake certainly, but a troll? I don't recall reading any post of his that was offensive. Whatever.

    I will still respond to the OP as if he were here. This would be a typical response to your unknown god.

    Yahweh Belongs on the Scrapheap of Mythology
    "I’d like to begin this exchange by making the observation that “atheist” is a term that should not even exist. We do not, after all, have a name for a person who does not believe in Zeus or Thor. In fact, we are all “atheists” with respect to Zeus and Thor and the thousands of other dead gods that now lie upon the scrapheap of mythology." Sam Harris

    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able, and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God?
    ~ Epicurus

    As you can see, atheism is not the doctrine the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not but rather, it is the existential disappointment expressed after encountering a failed theodicy.

    Read the biting sarcasm, seething anger and emptiness of the ones who have experienced existential disappointment:

    Religion easily has the best bullshit story of all time. Think about it. Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money. George Carlin

    If we go back to the beginning, we shall find that ignorance and fear created the gods; that fancy, enthusiasm, or deceit adorned them; that weakness worships them; that credulity preserves them and that custom, respect and tyranny support them in order to make the blindness of men serve their own interests. If the ignorance of nature gave birth to gods, the knowledge of nature is calculated to destroy them.
    Baron D’Holbach

    In regard to religious wars: You’re basically killing each other to see who’s got the better imaginary friend.
    Richard Jeni

    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.
    Quote from Unknown

    We are afraid of the known and afraid of the unknown. That is our daily life and in that there is no hope, and therefore every form of philosophy, every form of theological concept, is merely an escape from the actual reality of what is. All outward forms of change brought about by wars, revolutions, reformations, laws and ideologies have failed completely to change the basic nature of man and therefore of society.
    Thomas Jefferson

    Pure atheism is the opposite of religious fanaticism. It seeks out the source of false gods and shreds these to bits with biting sarcasm, unbridled fury and finally cold ruthlessness. It seeks to snuff out the vestiges of religion so that like the German philosopher Nietzsche, atheists can declare, "God is dead and we have killed him!"

    http://leftofzen.com/quotes-atheism/2008/01/14/
    http://richarddawkins.net/article,372,n,n
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    Quote Originally Posted by spidey99
    Essene a troll? A religious flake certainly, but a troll? I don't recall reading any post of his that was offensive. Whatever.
    It's not just about being offensive. Most of his/her posts were aimless or rambling. Check out the Trash section to see them.
    Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.
    Religion, n. A daughter of hope and fear, explaining to ignorance the nature of the unknowable.
    Philosophy, n. A route of many roads leading from nowhere to nothing.
    -Ambrose Bierce
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