Devil's Advocate

Originally Posted by Blondin

Only to one-track pissants like you, Larry.

I made a thread in the shire for you and this kind of trolling.

Originally Posted by Blondin

That the universe exists and functions is well supported by observation and analysis. Any claim that it doesn't exist would require evidence. Any claim that the universe could not exist without divine intervention requires evidence.
Neither Ken or I are making any such truth claims. Nobody is claiming to have 'proof' one way or the other.

Look I know no one has proof. I wasn't really asking for it I was trying to point out how misguided your mental proses is. The illogical claim I put down was for contras with your illogical claim.

Lets see you have fool language, you insult people, when they don't agree with you... you put marks on their record, you troll about misspelled words.... I think I need to have a talk with Chris about why your a moderator. I have a felling the your the reason this form was dead when I got here.

Yeah, you do that, Larry.

Why is atheism the right choice over theism?

Atheism provides nothing and asks nothing. Theism provides nothing and asks much.

Originally Posted by Kiefer

Why is atheism the right choice over theism?
Atheism provides nothing and asks nothing. Theism provides nothing and asks much.

I see you lump much in to theism. Famous Atheist (for lack of a organization) ask much, but as much as you can be a atheist without being a for lack of a better word Dawkinist, you can be a christian without being a Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, ect....

Just give it time, the atheist movement will become more organized and gain organized leadership and soon It will provide little and ask much and make mistakes that it will be hounded for.

Originally Posted by BlueMonkey

Famous Atheist (for lack of a organization) ask much,

Other then the initial cost of some of their personally sold items (books, DVD's, etc) what do "famous Atheists" ask for from your everyday Atheist?

Originally Posted by BlueMonkey

Just give it time, the atheist movement will become more organized and gain organized leadership and soon It will provide little and ask much and make mistakes that it will be hounded for.

Now you're a fortune teller, eh? While I do agree that some people may try to profit off of modern Atheism by positioning themselves as "leaders", I think it's safe to say that anybody with basic critical thinking capabilities will reject their leadership outright. So while their may be fringe groups they'll be as common as the Westboro Baptist Church, and likely taken as seriously.

[QUOTE=Kiefer;14767]Other then the initial cost of some of their personally sold items (books, DVD's, etc) what do "famous Atheists" ask for from your everyday Atheist?

Richard Dawkins, David D. Friedman, Clark Adams, Dan Barker, Joseph Edamaruku, and Ellen Johnson to name a few. They have all called for some form of action which will be at the cost of ones personal life. Now I'm not saying its not worth it I'm just pointing out the cost.

Originally Posted by Kiefer

Now you're a fortune teller, eh? While I do agree that some people may try to profit off of modern Atheism by positioning themselves as "leaders", I think it's safe to say that anybody with basic critical thinking capabilities will reject their leadership outright. So while their may be fringe groups they'll be as common as the Westboro Baptist Church, and likely taken as seriously.

These people have all gained much fame and money off of being a atheist. I look to the past to know what will likely happen call it fortune telling if you must. And while I hope your right I have come to find that people will in most part compromise and conform leaving a few to reap the the benefits, plant corruption, and promote purely personal agendas.

Originally Posted by BlueMonkey

Richard Dawkins, David D. Friedman, Clark Adams, Dan Barker, Joseph Edamaruku, and Ellen Johnson to name a few. They have all called for some form of action which will be at the cost of ones personal life. Now I'm not saying its not worth it I'm just pointing out the cost.

What have they asked for?

Originally Posted by BlueMonkey

These people have all gained much fame and money off of being a atheist. I look to the past to know what will likely happen call it fortune telling if you must. And while I hope your right I have come to find that people will in most part compromise and conform leaving a few to reap the the benefits, plant corruption, and promote purely personal agendas.

I must respectfully disagree, but only time will tell.