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4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach

This is a discussion on 4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach within the Religion forums, part of the Atheism category; Seems to me there are some very similar people around posting very similar posts. Why not try, everyone, 4 Step ...

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    Default Re: 4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach

    Seems to me there are some very similar people around posting very similar posts. Why not try, everyone, 4 Step Perfect Proof for God & Minimal Facts Approach where you will find that this exact same post has been confined to the Mental Ward.

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    That's not nice.

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    Default Re: 4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach

    Quote Originally Posted by Parture View Post
    That's not nice.
    What isn't nice, Pature? The fact that various boards have been spammed with the stuff you have posted - stuff that doesn't even add up? more to the point, where did you get this text from - I assume you did not write it yourself so you must be quoting it. how about attributing your source for this so we know who came up with it?

    Now a search shows that this text is at least as old as 2007 - it was posted here (http://biblocality.com/forums/showth...=4195#post4195 at that time and only copied and pasted since then so this is looking like plagiarism.

    Aha, maybe you need a memory promt.... Ever heard of Troy Brooks? This page (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/perfectproof.htm) looks like the source for these various posts - and it was you who quoted it in http://forums.thedailyshow.com/?page...hread_id=15313 last year.

    Comments on why you fail to attribute your source?
    Last edited by wheels5894; 08-10-2010 at 09:48 AM. Reason: added last paragraphs

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    Default Re: 4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach

    There is nothing new under the sun. The same proof of God and that Jesus is God has been around for 2000 years, not since 2007.

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    Default Re: 4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach

    The sad thing is that there undoubtedly are feeble-minded individuals who are convinced by such lame attempts to imitate a logical argument.
    "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself -- and you are the easiest person to fool." -- Richard Feynman

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    Default Re: 4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach

    If it were as you say, you chould show it but you can't, so aren't you being feeble-minded and lame pretending to be logical in shutting your mind down?

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    Default Re: 4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach

    Your entire argument is made up of a bunch of statements that can't be dis-proven any more than they can be proven. They are unsubstantiated postulates which you then derive non-sequitur conclusions from. I have given a couple of examples. There are dozens of links available through a simple google search which show many individuals trying to explain to you why your so-called "proof" does not stand up.

    What it all boils down to is that you can not form conclusions from what is not known. Your entire thesis rests on false dichotomies. All of this has been explained (ad nauseum) to you (or Troy Brooks if you are not the original author).

    You can sing the "I was right" song all you want and all it will prove is that you are a clueless ignoramus.
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    Default Re: 4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach

    Oh you could easily disprove the proof of resurrection. All you need to do is come up with a naturalistic explanation. What I have presented to you assumes nothing, but just lets the evidence lead us where it may. You can falsify Christianity and God if you could find a naturlalistic viable explanation, but you haven't and certainly should have been able to do so by now if your beliefs were true.

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    Default Re: 4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach

    No, I'm not going to spend any more time responding to your nonsense. Why don't you go do some research on "arguments from ignorance".

    No wonder you are banned from other forums. Trolls like you even give wanking a bad name.
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    Default Re: 4 Step Perfect Proof for God and Minimal Facts Approach

    It is an argument from ignorance to claim somehow there is a naturalistic explanation for the data most atheist scholars concede yet you don't know what it is. Why be coy? Is that ethical?

    12 Historical Facts (Most Critical Scholars Believe These 12 items)


    1. Jesus died by crucifixion.

    2. He was buried.

    3. His death caused the disciples to despair and lose hope.

    4. The tomb was empty (the most contested).

    5. The disciples had experiences which they believed were literal appearances of the risen Jesus (the most important proof).

    6. The disciples were transformed from doubters to bold proclaimers.

    7. The resurrection was the central message.

    8. They preached the message of Jesus’ resurrection in Jerusalem.

    9. The Church was born and grew.

    10. Orthodox Jews who believed in Christ made Sunday their primary day of worship.

    11. James was converted to the faith when he saw the resurrected Jesus (James was a family skeptic).

    12. Paul was converted to the faith (Paul was an outsider skeptic).

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