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    A bit about me, as a teen my parents returned to their old church and I joined shortly thereafter at about age 12, getting serious in the church around age 14 and leaving the church around age 16, though at the time I was convinced I was going to Hell. The church was Pentecostal. If any of you know anything about that particular religion you will know that it really does a number on the mind of a kid.

    As the years went on I slowly started believing less and less without realizing it. Years had passed and I had become agnostic before I even started to question things I was told in the church. In fact, much of what I believed to be in the Bible was nowhere to be found in there. Someone in the church said it was in the Bible, they wouldn't lie to me, so I simply assumed it was true.

    Once I made this realization I finally knew that I had chosen the wrong religion and started a search for God to see if there was a right religion. The religious say if you truly search for God you will find him, but all of you know what REALLY happens when you search for God with a truly open mind. You become an atheist. And I did.

    I'm pretty easy going. While I do agree that religion can be damaging to people mentally, especially kids, I believe in religious freedom, so long as it includes my freedom not to be religious. I don't care if people practice polygamy and other people call it a cult. If it makes them happy, everyone is a willing participant of legal age and nobody gets hurt it's not really my concern. I do still have my "angry atheist" moments, though. When someone says something stupid like, "Atheists got prayer removed from schools", it does tend to grind on my nerves a bit. I don't like being a scapegoat and I don't like history being twisted to make me look bad. I can get quite combative at times and, like every person on the planet, I do tend use simple terms such as "Christians" rather than "your particular belief system" when responding to such ignorance, giving the impression that I lump them all together. In reality it seems like the dumber someone is, the louder they scream. What that means is that the Christians I generally come across are the most bigoted and ignorant of the bunch because they are the ones screaming while the good ones sit quietly on the sidelines going virtually unnoticed.

    On thing about me which I believe is probably unusual for an atheist, I am not a Dawkins fan. Don't get me wrong, he is a great and brilliant man. I just don't like what I've read of his work which, admittedly, has not been much. I found the first chapter of The Greatest Show on Earth to be boring, often WAY off topic, self gratifying and not entirely honest, but that is just my opinion.

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    Default Re: Hello, all

    hey, welcome on here!

    What is Pentecostal? Never heard about it... lol
    Well I guess I'm not a "fan" of Dawkins as well, but I liked the God delusion simply cause it articulated a lot of my thoughts, even though I don't agree with everything he wrote. But I'm glad that there are some people out there who speak their (atheist ) mind in public.

    Anyways, welcome and have a great time!
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    Der Atheist ist das größte Kompliment, das Gott sich selbst zollt: Er schafft ein Wesen, das stark genug ist, von ihm abzusehen. - E. W. Eschmann

    Scheiße bleibt Scheiße, selbst wenn sie vom Papst ist.


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    You're familiar with Jesus Camp, I assume? THAT is a Pentecostal, more or less. Think of the most annoying, irrational, "You're going to Hell if you don't agree with me" twit you can imagine. That was me. To do myself justice, though, I never doubted the existence of dinosaurs, though my best friend at the time, the pastor's son, told me they were not real and were, in fact, made up by scientists (who we all know are evil for no particular reason). The Pentecostal religion is a cult without a compound. While they do not physically separate you from the world, they do so psychologically very well. Anywhere there might be drinking, smoking or swearing is a "bad atmosphere" and off limits. As a kid, that meant I could go home and to church. I had to go to school otherwise that would have been off limits too. I came out of that church with zero social skills and zero friends. If you follow the rules, which I did, when you leave the church you lose all your friends. I was understandably very angry with religion in general for a lot of years. Now I just revel in the fact that I dumped them and they still want me back!

    By the way, thank you for the warm welcome.
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    wow, sounds insane! ô.0
    I'm not too familar with this American religion stuff so you have to forgive me. Thanks for explaining it to me. Well congratulations for making it out of there.
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    Der Atheist ist das größte Kompliment, das Gott sich selbst zollt: Er schafft ein Wesen, das stark genug ist, von ihm abzusehen. - E. W. Eschmann

    Scheiße bleibt Scheiße, selbst wenn sie vom Papst ist.


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    Don't worry, I don't expect you to know everything about every religion any more than I want to know that much about religion. Not to toot my own horn, but I was too smart and too honest for that religion. I have a hard time lying, even to myself and it became increasingly difficult to fool myself into believing that I did not have a nagging feeling that something was wrong with my beliefs. I am DEFINITELY glad to be rid of it. I let my mom take my oldest son to Sunday school there for a while years ago until he came home crying saying that his mother and I were going to Hell because we didn't go to church. He was 6. I understand religion far better now and now I have a single rule; My children can attend any church they like, so long as the church is not bigoted. Not sure how long it will take them to figure out that rules out almost every Christian denomination. They all teach their parishioners to hate someone. The Pentecostal church teaches them to hate everyone, they just don't call it hate. Gays, atheists, scientists, even other Christians, who they claim are not Christians at all...unless they're proudly talking about how many Christians there are in the world and how Christianity is the biggest "religion" in the world, of course.

    Anyway, thanks for the warm welcome and I, too, am glad I am no longer stupid by choice.

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    Hi, Widdershins. Welcome to the party.
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    Hi Widdershins and welcome =]

    I did watch Jesus Camp and I've made a totally new post dedicated to how wrong it is.
    It's so wrong what they did/do to young children.

    I won't say more as i'll be repeating myself from the post. I'd love you to comment on my post about Jesus Camp seeing as you experienced it first hand.

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    Hi, I am Tracy . I am a new member of forum. Would a newcomer be warmly welcome here? Good day you guys!!!

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    Hi I believe in god or bible and i believe that bible point us the right way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tracyk859 View Post
    Hi, I am Tracy . I am a new member of forum. Would a newcomer be warmly welcome here? Good day you guys!!!
    Welcome, please do post away.

    You can introduce your self here or start your own.
    " Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? "
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