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    Some of you can say that this is not so. Please allow me to explain. Mainly a god is something that is in charge and rules your life. Some demand praise some do not. You may be saying "Whats your point?" Here is my point: if there is no other god in your life if you try to control your life, then you are the god of your life. However, I doubt that all of you are the god of your life. Some of you let materialism, relationships, trying to quench your thirst for power, etc. rule your life, whether you want to admit it or not. That is why there is not such thing as an atheist, we are always worshiping or letting something rule our lives. If it is us or not it does not matter, there is still a god in our life. My question is, who is the god of your life? Why do you have that god? What do you hope to or believe you will gain from that god? I think it is only fair that I answer these questions also. Here are my answers.

    1. The God of the universe. The God of the Bible. Of Abraham, Issac, Jacob. The ruler of all. I could list many more names, but I think you get the idea.

    2. He is the highest God. The ruler of all things. My creator. It only makes since that I should show him my love, respect, and honor. He is fulfilling, He is all that I need or want.

    3. Everlasting life, eternity with God in his home, forgiveness, etc. Again, I could go on, but I think you get the idea.
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    Default Re: Why there is no such thing as an atheist

    You may be saying "Whats your point?"
    Nope! You've made your point abundantly clear over and over again. We know exactly what is your point. How totally boring you have become!

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    Boring how?

    What is my point then?
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    Default Re: Why there is no such thing as an atheist

    Let me help break it down for you:

    1. You have completely no idea what atheism is
    2. Instead of finding out in an open-minded manner, youalready made your own assumption about what an atheist is, which leads to:
    3. You asking yet more completely off-track, absurd and meaningless questions
    4. Worse, you answer your own questions before waiting for any of our responses
    5. In answering your own self-serving question, you pretty much already invalidated it
    6. Finally, your post, yet again, demonstrates the following:
    - the kind of smug, self-serving and narrow-minded Christi-inanity that many of us dislike
    (I was a little bit like you once upon a time, CS, though not nearly as annoying)
    - the kind of smug, self-serving and narrow-minded Christian that would rather use this
    forum as a preaching and conversion opportunity instead of actually learning something
    - your failure to respect, yet again, the spirit and purpose of an atheist discussion forum
    - your lack of respect, yet again, for the non-religious and/or atheist members of this forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Soldier View Post
    Some of you can say that this is not so. Please allow me to explain. Mainly a god is something that is in charge and rules your life. Some demand praise some do not. You may be saying "Whats your point?" Here is my point: if there is no other god in your life if you try to control your life, then you are the god of your life. However, I doubt that all of you are the god of your life. Some of you let materialism, relationships, trying to quench your thirst for power, etc. rule your life, whether you want to admit it or not. That is why there is not such thing as an atheist, we are always worshiping or letting something rule our lives. If it is us or not it does not matter, there is still a god in our life. My question is, who is the god of your life? Why do you have that god? What do you hope to or believe you will gain from that god?
    1. I do not believe there is such a thing as a god.

    2. Because I have never seen any evidence of such a being.

    3. I am not aware of any benefit or gain to be made from believing in imaginary beings.
    "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself -- and you are the easiest person to fool." -- Richard Feynman

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    Default Re: Why there is no such thing as an atheist

    You presume an awful lot about people you know nothing about and you project your own limitations of insight and imagination on us.

    We've tried to tell you but you just don't seem to be listening: we've been there, considered the arguments and rejected the proposition. Instead of playing word games and rehashing the same old trite and tired nonsense either produce some evidence or shut the fuck up.

    Honestly, how can you possibly think your pathetic efforts could have any effect against the kind of lucid, logical, reality-based reasoning of people like Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Carl Sagan, Bertrand Russell, Isaac Asimov, etc, etc...

    For example: Believing the Unbelievable
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    Quote Originally Posted by meezly View Post
    Let me help break it down for you:

    1. You have completely no idea what atheism is
    It is a self serving religion in which the person worships and glorifies themselves rather than another being. The per claims that there is no god in order to justify there worship of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by meezly View Post
    2. Instead of finding out in an open-minded manner, you already made your own assumption about what an atheist is, which leads to:
    I received my information from the dictionary. However, I learned enough from listening to, and talking to the atheists on this website.

    Quote Originally Posted by meezly View Post
    3. You asking yet more completely off-track, absurd and meaningless questions
    Not true. They were conpletely on track. Either you worship something else(read the list), or you worship YOURSELF.

    Quote Originally Posted by meezly View Post
    4. Worse, you answer your own questions before waiting for any of our responses
    As I said, I only thought if fair that I answer these questions that I asked myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by meezly View Post
    5. In answering your own self-serving question, you pretty much already invalidated it
    Quote Originally Posted by meezly View Post
    6. Finally, your post, yet again, demonstrates the following:
    - the kind of smug, self-serving and narrow-minded Christi-inanity that many of us dislike
    (I was a little bit like you once upon a time, CS, though not nearly as annoying)
    I am not serving myself. I am serving you. I am doing my best to shine light on the truth. One problem with me shining my light though: You have to look to see it.
    I have been as open minded as I could possibly be with you guys. I try every day to be open minded with everything(from alien stories to reading scientific books).

    Quote Originally Posted by meezly View Post
    - the kind of smug, self-serving and narrow-minded Christian that would rather use this forum as a preaching and conversion opportunity instead of actually learning something
    Not 100% true. Yes I do want to see you guys come to Christ. I have found though that I have learned a lot on here and have learned from another website that by talking with an evolutionist you can learn a lot about evolution and about the people you are talking to.

    Quote Originally Posted by meezly View Post
    - your failure to respect, yet again, the spirit and purpose of an atheist discussion forum
    Just because I do not agree with the purpose does not mean that I do not respect it. A big difference. I hope you understand what I mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by meezly View Post
    - your lack of respect, yet again, for the non-religious and/or atheist members of this forum
    See above.
    It is hard to bear the torch of truth through a crowd without singeing someones beard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Soldier View Post
    Mainly a god is something that is in charge and rules your life. Some demand praise some do not.
    No, only gods are gods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Soldier View Post
    Not true. They were conpletely on track. Either you worship something else(read the list), or you worship YOURSELF.
    Speaking for myself, I don't worship myself.

    I suspect that you're saying this because you simply can't imagine the atheist mindset. You feel like you have a "god-shaped" hole that needs to be filled with something. Is that a fair assessment? If so, you should know that I and IMO most atheists don't feel anything like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Soldier View Post
    Just because I do not agree with the purpose does not mean that I do not respect it. A big difference. I hope you understand what I mean.
    No - the big tip-off for me that you don't respect my position is that you declare it to be invalid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Soldier View Post
    It is a self serving religion in which the person worships and glorifies themselves rather than another being. The per claims that there is no god in order to justify there worship of themselves.

    I received my information from the dictionary. However, I learned enough from listening to, and talking to the atheists on this website.

    Not true. They were conpletely on track. Either you worship something else(read the list), or you worship YOURSELF.
    Your own words reveal that you are a liar. I challenge you to produce the dictionary that defines atheism as "a self serving religion". Show me the dictionary that says that atheists worship themselves.

    You have a very weak grasp on logic and reality if you really think anybody of normal intelligence is going to be persuaded by such insipid argumentation. It is indeed ironic that you use the adjective "self-serving". As I said before, you seem to be projecting your own limited reasoning abilities on us. This will get you nowhere.

    I suggest you spend an hour listening to that talk from Sam Harris that I linked to. If you pay attention you may get a glimmer of understanding of why your silly word games and childishly pathetic arguments make no impression.
    "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself -- and you are the easiest person to fool." -- Richard Feynman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondin View Post
    Your own words reveal that you are a liar. I challenge you to produce the dictionary that defines atheism as "a self serving religion". Show me the dictionary that says that atheists worship themselves.
    I told you, I did not get it all from the dictionary. I learned more from you guys about atheism than I did about it from a dictionary. The dictionary gave me data. You guys gave me data. I interpreted the data. I can't help if you do not like the interpretation of the data.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blondin View Post
    You have a very weak grasp on logic and reality if you really think anybody of normal intelligence is going to be persuaded by such insipid argumentation. It is indeed ironic that you use the adjective "self-serving". As I said before, you seem to be projecting your own limited reasoning abilities on us. This will get you nowhere.
    I have to say Blondin that you do not know me all that well either so you can not fully understand my grasp of logic and reality. Honestly, I do not expect to persuade you. I am hoping that you will see the truth, but I do not expect you to. I do this for the person of whom God is working on there heart. I am doing my part and am going to let God do the miracle. I can't convince you, but the power of the Holy Spirit can open your eyes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blondin View Post
    I suggest you spend an hour listening to that talk from Sam Harris that I linked to. If you pay attention you may get a glimmer of understanding of why your silly word games and childishly pathetic arguments make no impression.
    I am going to save it to favorites and watch it in pieces.

    As I said above though, I do not think I will make the impression, that God will.
    It is hard to bear the torch of truth through a crowd without singeing someones beard.

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