What is the future of humanity according to an Atheist?

Originally Posted by ManSeekingTruth

For example, how did the Big Bang create all that we see in the universe? How could all of that matter and space and time come from a single point without influence? If everything in a universe has a beggining then where did it come from?

These are very valid and worthy questions, the problem is that religion does nothing to answer them. Where science says "we do not yet know for sure, but here is our best guess" religion says "you don't know? God did it. Your dog ran away? God did it. Universe from nothing? God did it." Rather than providing any form of substance it just presents the answer that it wants to be true, not the one that is based on evidence. Furthermore if the universe must have been "created" then why is it that god is exempt from this rule? Something must have made god, and something must have made that, and so on and so forth in an infinite regression of god creators.

Originally Posted by ManSeekingTruth

For me I could see 'intelligent design' in our universe.

If you can provide me with an example of a naturally occurring life form or form of matter that requires creation through intelligence, I'd love to see it.

Originally Posted by ManSeekingTruth

I could see structure from the basest of elements to the larger super clusters of galaxies. I also could see all of these things controlled by the 'physical laws' of the universe like gravity ect and could not explain how they could have occured without influence. For me I just coudnt believe that these realities, even us, were formed and made through a "random" occurence.

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Originally Posted by ManSeekingTruth

Simply, Christanity was the most logical for me according my understanind of the universe. I know thats a long answer but I couldn't make it any shorter.

All you said here was "I like Christianity therefore it must be true". You don't get to choose reality.

Originally Posted by ManSeekingTruth

I was hoping that some of you guys could tell me how you came to your atheistic understanding and maybe "turn" me round aback again

You may want to start here.

There are many possible futures for mankind, but ultimately the future is the end.
I believe that in the future mankind will find the technology to manufacture water, the sun will become too hot for us to remain living here and we'll move to a moon orbiting Saturn where we'll develop a culture with the technology to terraform planets. We won't be travelling the universe on space ships. We'll be exploring the universe by creating a chain of colonies on terraformed bodies throughout the universe.

If we ever meet any other intelligent life in the universe, it will be long after we've already grown beyond the blue dot we once called home.

Originally Posted by ManSeekingTruth

Thanks everyone for the kind responses, I know that discussion on these matters can get quite heated. I can promise you my only purpose in posting is evident in the name I chose for myself.



Simply, Christanity was the most logical for me according my understanind of the universe. I know thats a long answer but I couldn't make it any shorter.

I was hoping that some of you guys could tell me how you came to your atheistic understanding and maybe "turn" me round aback again
Seeking truth always...

I have to say I was in an anglican boarding school, a tough love sort of place. Formed in the 60's on the prairies in Canada.
Hard work, responsibility, education bla bla. I was there for 10,11 and grad/grade 12 in 1977. My Dad sought to instill religion in
at least 1 kid.
Loads of fun, reliving fur trade canoe routes, some 1200 miles, snowshoe and dog sled trips and races. Each kid was assigned to a squad,
kitchen, yard keeping, laundry, kennels etc.

Every week we had a couple of hours of religious studies. The younger grades up to 10 get basically a sunday school lesson, nothing too earth shattering, familiar to every WASP kid. Grades 11 and 12 were different, we began to look and compare one faith to another. There were
lectures on everything from buddhism to literal christian sects. We looked at the history of religion, of course delveing deep into christianity and its roots. I have to say I thought the whole thing was hooey anyway, and my avoiding church after 13 was just honest adolescent rebvellion.
But around 15 or 16 I looked at all this data before me, all the old ancient religions.
It slowly came to me, they all seemed similar, they were controlling features not really necessary but obvious constructs to dominate and control
the people. There were so many religions far far far previous to christianity that claimed things like virgin births of saviours, all around
winter solstice, they all died and rose again after a few days to save the masses in one way or another. We looked at things like the dead sea scrolls, not much was known then except the bible was missing all sorts of things.
The detail of the history of christianity was especially eye-opening. The beginning was a fix from the start, COnstantine needed something to replace the standard roman gods, his empire was decidedly eastern in flavour. Lots of pesky christian sects, all over the place, sort followed the same book, or series of books. He cobbled the existing bible, declared all the rest bad bad bad, and formed modern christianity,mostly to
lord over the masses, and some believe, to please his wife.
I looked at the tableau of religions and saw nothing special, thor, osiris, neptune, yaweh, all appeasement or attempts to explain what could not be explained. We have easily reached the point in human education where almost everything religions sought to explain have been explained. There are no ghosts, no zombies up to eat brains or save you or me. Just the explanations desperatly sought by mideastern ancients for nature and its foibles from flood to earthquake to loss at war.

We then began to detail some of the history from there, the more I heard about christianity, the more revolted and disgusted I became. The suppression of knowledge alone condemed christianity for me, but add the violence, hatred that exists all the way to now.

We can no longer as a race afford these superstitions, they are literally tearing the world to bits, and the scariest part. Christians are fucking crazy enough to actually want to destroy their own world. ALmost every war in the last 2 or 3 thousand years have been fought over religion, americans are fighting in 2 countries against religious fanatics, that counts as yet another 2 religious wars.

Religion is a curse to humanity, christianity is one of the worst.