Atheism the same crazy in a new box.

Atheism the same crazy in a new box.

This crazy has be popping up in all the the other threads I've posted on. So lets just move all that crazy here.



How Is Atheism less crazy then Theism?

How Is Atheism less crazy then Theism?

Lets see, I'll make a list of crazy things I can think of (off the top of my head) that theism holds true but atheism would reject.

Reincarnation, all powerful magical beings, Earths age is 6000 years, you can repopulate a species (in fact, every species) with a single pairing of male and female and fit all these animals on a single boat, thinking to yourself can somehow influence events, wine and crackers are really blood and flesh of a 2000 year old man, water can become magical if special people say certain magic words to it, blowing yourself up in the name of your god will grant you unblemished virgins, immaculate conception, walking on water, the sun is pulled by a flaming chariot, celibacy is a good idea, etc etc.

The list goes on, but it's 4am and I'm too tired to think of any more.

Originally Posted by Kiefer

Lets see, I'll make a list of........

I asked about Atheism and Theism. Not Atheism and the Catholics.

Originally Posted by BlueMonkey

I asked about Atheism and Theism. Not Atheism and the Catholics.

Catholicism is a type of Theism, and furthermore I did include examples that apply to a range of religious beliefs. My response fulfilled your initial request, if you have more to say on the topic then please do so.

Originally Posted by Kiefer

Catholicism is a type of Theism, and furthermore I did include examples that apply to a range of religious beliefs. My response fulfilled your initial request, if you have more to say on the topic then please do so.

Catholicism is a religion. Theism is not a religion it is just a answer to a question it has no dogma or rites.

Originally Posted by BlueMonkey

Catholicism is a religion. Theism is not a religion it is just a answer to a question it has no dogma or rites.

You asked what makes Theism crazy, I gave you examples. What more do you want?

same old same old, from 1903

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hmmm theistic crazy,
-people still say smug, sanctimonious things like, "there are no atheists in foxholes." You know why you're not seeing atheists in foxholes? Because believers are threatening to shoot them if they come out.
-Its nuts that -- 82 years after the Scopes trial -- school boards in the US and Canada are still having to spend time and money and resources on the fight to have evolution taught in the schools.
-It is insane that in modern times women are dying of AIDS in Africa and South America because a church has convinced them that using condoms makes baby Jesus cry.
-Even in supposedly modern countries women are having septic abortions -- or are being forced to have unwanted children who they resent and mistreat -- because religious organizations have gotten laws passed making abortion illegal.
-Wow, it is really dumb, insane really that people still go for advice to persons who have no training in counseling, in some cases they proudly provide advice they admit to having no experience in.
-prayer, what an stooooopid concept, down on your knees and what ever happens next is the will of god. Be it a windfall for your uncle or an avalanche in a remote far away place. Random events that would have occurred anyway.
-I find it abhorrent that so many parents and religious leaders terrorize children -- who (a) have brains that are hard-wired to trust adults and believe what they're told, and (b) are very literal-minded -- with vivid, traumatizing stories of eternal burning and torture to ensure that they'll be too frightened to even question religion.
-It is crazy that an organization has been allowed to exist for so long with such a long long long history of sexual wrongs, abuses and cover ups.
- 9/11 and most of the reaction to it was crazy.

Here's an interesting blog post from PZ Myers that would seem to indicate a correlation between atheism and 'less crazy'.

A growing body of social science research reveals that atheists, and non-religious people in general, are far from the unsavory beings many assume them to be. On basic questions of morality and human decency — issues such as governmental use of torture, the death penalty, punitive hitting of children, racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, environmental degradation or human rights — the irreligious tend to be more ethical than their religious peers, particularly compared with those who describe themselves as very religious.

You might be tempted to remind us that correlation does not prove causation or to ponder which is the cause and which is the effect. Or you could just accept it as another data point.